February 25, 2015

Breaking Bread with the Bad Guys (and gals)

http://www.gty.org/resources/sermons/TM13-11/strange-fire-panel-question-and-answer-session-1
JUSTIN PETERS: One of the things that makes…that makes it so hard to warn people about false teachers is when the good guys start associating with the bad guys. (Applause) And they give these people…now what we’ve seen in these clips is extreme, to be sure, but the same movement, this word of faith, Charismatic Movement, certainly the more as you drift toward the word of faith, one of the things that so confuses people, I cannot tell you how many times I’ve heard from people and they ask me, “Well what about So-and-So, I saw him with Paul Crouch, I saw him with Marcus Lamb, you know, on Daystar and on TBN, it makes it very hard for us to warn people about the wolves when the leaders of the sheep are associating with the wolves. And they give them…let me…Paul Crouch loves to have the good guys on his set, loves it because the good guys give him a level of credibility that he does not have on his own. And Paul Crouch, TBN, Daystar, Marcus Lamb, these guys are the tips of the spears that are exporting this theological poison to the rest of the world. And that is an offense to the gospel. And these guys should know better. It is a shame that prominent people, some of the supposed good guys are breaking metaphorical bread with the bad guys. It’s hard enough (Applause)

I guess that only applies to Charismatic heresy then.

http://conference.mbird.com/our-speakers/


(yes, I realize this isn't the first time Tullian has gone on with heretical disobedient leaders who call themselves Christians)

Tullian and Nadia birds of a feather?

Interesting twitter war:

Some of the exchange between @piratechristian and @p5eudepigrapha

So wait a minute...isn't Tullian Tchividjian (former twitter handle @PastorTullian - now changed to @TullianT) the one who is guilty of (essentially) saying his message isn't much different from Nadia Bolz Weber's (@SarcasticLuther) by publicly considering her his sister in Christ and she considering him her brother in Christ?

Since when is disagreeing with Chris = bearing false witness? Is Chris the arbiter of truth? Isn't he always asking for people to question him? I guess it's just a ruse to make him look interested in correction.

(Yes, Trent had a show on PCR until this exchange.  Now he has been kicked off . Isn't that what Brannon did to Chris over him questioning Chris Pinto?)

It's 2011 all over again.  Then this came out:

Well, no one said Horton's theology was changed or going off the rails or anything like that.  I asked Chris why he made it sound like that was what it was about.  His reply was that he had to change the narrative to make it look like he wasn't trying to justify himself.  HUH?

I responded "I'm not sure why that would be necessary, but ok."

That was the last I talked to him.  My question is, why the truth needs to be 'rearranged' in order to do what the truth does (set people free)?  The truth is not powerful enough without our tinkering?

Perhaps Chris needs to be reminded that "changing the narrative" away from what actually happened is just another way to tell a lie.

People seem to think that by being friends they have a better chance of influencing people.  Um... it actually gets HARDER to speak the truth when you get emotionally connected to someone.  You don't want to jeopardize the relationship.  Even worse when that someone has the potential to affect your income if your income is based on popularity.  And that's what a web these guys are entangled in.  And they don't even see it.  They act just like the Seeker Sensitive Evangelical Industrial Complex they rail against, when their comfort is threatened.  Impressive.

cue:  cries of "you're breaking the 8th commandment!  REPENT"  

No thanks. You first.  My conscience is clear.

I'm so done with this hypocritical bunch.  Never again.