May 18, 2013

Erik Dykstra repents??? Well, maybe not... just repackaged false teaching

For What it's worth I did find this claim by someone that there has been genuine repentance at Crossing Church by the pastor:


I'm listening  to the sermon to see if it really indicates what this guy says it does. I hope you will check it out too. I'm going to remain skeptical... but I am listening. So far it is a vast improvement. I hope it is for real.

In the middle of the sermon it sounds like he has been talking to Tullian Tchividjian. He actually mentioned a pastor that he has been listening to... and that he is a "presbyterian reformed guy." He's even using Tullian's phraseology in places.

He also mentions that he's been listening to some charismatic pentecostal guy. I sure hope that isn't Joseph Prince. sigh. But, regardless, though there are some sloppy parts, this particular message is a huge improvement. So I set out to listen to some other more recent messages.

and...sigh. It sounded good at first, but now listening to some more recent messages (the ones right after "Time Machine," he definitely still sounds somewhat word faith-y. He just emphasizes God's love as the "word" you are supposed to confess in order to get the things you want like a raise/promotion/ avoiding a layoff (and like, for him in this particular sermon we are listening to, on his day off, catching a fish was what he prayed for). Is that what Jesus prayed in the garden?

He's turned belief into a work we must do to get what we want. sigh. Still not good at all.  Very little emphasis on Christ and his perfect finished work on our behalf.

In addition, their "code" on their website is still organized around everyone aggressively defending and supporting the "vision" of the "visionary" (i.e. the pastor) and if you don't like it you can go somewhere else. I wonder if it's changed enough so that people will still talk to you, if you do, though.

He's now constructing straw men about those that 'divide' the church into those that are loved by God and those that aren't. i.e. if you say someone isn't repentant, and therefore not saved,or is wrong, and that that issue is worth fighting about, that somehow necessarily means they aren't loved by God and that we hate them.


So, we listened to five or six different messages and some of them were actually OK with some sloppy spots. (Still not something I felt particularly gung ho about, but couldn't say they were totally off.) Others were just sloppy mixed word faith positive confession type stuff.  He still has his theology of glory mixed in with this new focus on grace.  And of course there's the problem of a woman pastor.

I was also right in my suspicions I think.  I scrolled back through his twitter feed to about the time where he gave that first "Time Machine" sermon and there were quite a few retweets of Pastor Tullian appearing on Erik's feed, along with a bunch from Joseph Prince.  Sigh.  No Art Azurdia unfortunately.  And lots of Joel Osteen. (vomit)

It's funny how you can very often guess who someone's been listening to by how they sound, if you listen closely enough.

I do hope this is a transition into sounder doctrine.  Since it's only been about 8 months, maybe it's still a work in process. I pray it is the case.