March 30, 2012

More Elephants In The Room: TD Jakes Comes Out Pelagian

Would ya look at that! T D Jakes is not orthodox after all!
"We develop our propensity to forgive or not to forgive by what we see illustrated at the early ages of our development. We don't come here unforgiving. Children are not unforgiving. You can punish them and they will hug you in a few minutes,"
TD Jakes: We Are Born Forgiving in Nature; Unforgiveness Is Learned

How many Elephants are there in the room now? I've lost count.  That's ok, we'll just train the Elephant to do a few more tricks and call it orthodox.  Case closed!

March 29, 2012

An Excellent story - Atheist stunned at church's charity toward him

I can't vouch for the church's teachings but they definitely have SOMETHING right!

Atheist shocked when church helps with bills
When Jessica Crye, a member of Sand Springs Baptist Church in Athens, Texas, found out, she called her pastor, Erick Graham, to see if he had heard the news -- not only about the dropped suit but about Greene's health. Crye asked Graham if their church could help him. Graham's answer was simple.

"Sure we can help him," Graham told her.

Graham said he didn't need to take time to pray about the matter or to mull it over because Christ had already provided an answer.

"We don't need to pray about it," Graham said. "We've already been given the command to do it."
Read more at Baptist Press

March 28, 2012

Matt Chandler replaces Mark Driscoll at Acts 29 Network

Apparently Mark Driscoll, Darrin Patrick, and Matt Chandler has decided it would be better for Matt Chandler to lead Acts 29.  That would seem to be a step upward.  However, the letter released by Acts 29 from Mark Driscoll, Darrin Patrick, and Matt Chandler sure leaves a lot of questions unanswered.

It sounds more like a way to remove the trouble maker Mark from leadership without admitting why.

The letters from Darrin and Matt can be read along with Mark's letter at Phoenix Preacher.

Prayers for Matt, for wisdom in this new level of responsibility.

March 23, 2012

Michael Horton at LIBERATE 2012

LIBERATE AUDIO:  Michael Horton
"...the (Gospel) Promise is not simply about something that might happen, the promise in the process of being announced, creates the reality of which it speaks. God wasn't talking ABOUT the promise, God was preaching the promise INTO Abram and he believed. It's the same with us.

I think of the law and the gospel this way: Call it Purposes and Promises. Law and Gospel is what I'm going to call it here. A sailboat is decked out with all of the greatest latest technology. It tells you where you are, it tells you where you need to be, it plots your course. You absolutely need that on a sailboat. What danger lies up ahead, you need to know that. How do you get from point A to point B? What does it mean to sail properly? You need all of this instruction. But you need wind in the sails or it's not going to go anywhere.

There are a lot of people who become Christians - that brief and shining moment where they hear the gospel, at the beginning. They're sailing out of the harbor. They've just learned that all of their sins are forgiven, it's a new covenant, established by Christ, inaugurated by his blood! They get that. Wind is in their sails...they're following the directional advice, they're plotting their course, law and gospel are working fine together. For that brief and shining moment. And then suddenly, someone STOPS preaching the gospel to them, and they're dead in the water, with all this technology, with all this wisdom. With all this smartness on the boat. They can't go anywhere. That's where a lot of Christians are today. Surrounded by the Christian life section at the bookstore. By 90 percent of what they hear on Christian radio. By far too many sermons that they're likely to hear this coming Sunday which keep them turned in on themselves, which give them some new gadget... and they're saying "I'm DEAD IN THE WATER! My problem ISN'T that I don't have enough technology, my problem isn't that I don't have enough direction! I don't need another gadget to tell me I'm dead in the water! Is there any wind for my sails?

Only the Promise can do that." -- Michael Horton

Listen here


I've been waiting on the edge of my seat for this!  The audio is now freely available.

LIBERATE Conference from Coral Ridge

Some quotes from session 2.
"The life I now live in the flesh I live by faith in the Son of God, just by faith in the Son of God, who did something... he loved me. How would you live today if you knew at the very bottom of your soul that you were loved? You know what that would do? It would free you from having to make sure you were being loved." - Elyse Fitzpatrick

‎"Grace purifies our motives because it removes the power of self-serving guilt from the equation" - Elyse Fitzpatrick
After listening to some very law/moralistic preaching the last couple days (from a local popular pastor in our church's denomination, oddly enough, warning against legalism, and from James Macdonald on finding God's Will), I really am finding this a breath of fresh air. I'm finding I am less and less inclined to tolerate people adding law to the gospel. This not saying I am less tolerante of the right preaching of law and gospel or that I don't want to hear any law. I do, and I do need to hear it. What I am less tolerant of is the confusion of the two, or the neglect or corruption/lightening/dilution of either one.

Dilution/corruption of the law = moralism/legalism
Dilution/corruption of grace/gospel = moralism/legalism

They both end up in the same place.

March 21, 2012

The wife of a former elder at Mars Hill tells her story

More stories keep coming out about the abuse and coercion under the authority of Mark Driscoll. This time the wife of former elder Paul Petry speaks out:

My Story by Jonna Petry

Shortly before Paul was confirmed as a pastor/elder, I was invited to a dinner to celebrate Grace’s (Mark’s wife and my friend) birthday. There were a dozen or so women in attendance and I ended up sitting next to Karen Schaeffer, who was Mark’s administrative assistant - a lovely, older, godly woman whom I greatly respected. Sitting next to us was an elder’s wife who was close in age and who also had quite a bit of previous ministry experience. The three of us enjoyed great conversation – alive, encouraging, as iron sharpens iron. We ended up being the last three to leave the restaurant and as we walked to the car decided we should pray together for some of the things that had been shared. We got in the car and ended our time together praying for many things, including the elders, our families and the church.

The next morning I heard from the elder’s wife, the one Karen and I had so enjoyed - that she had shared our conversation with her husband and he felt that it showed “disloyalty” on Karen’s part, was gossip, and that it needed to be brought to Mark, which he did. Karen was fired. The gist of what she shared that was branded “disloyal” was a heart of thankfulness that my husband, Paul, was being made an elder because Mark needed strong men around him who could handle and stand up to push-back. When I found out what this elder and his wife had done, I called Mark immediately in tears and asked him to forgive me for my part in that conversation. Looking back, I’m not sure that Karen or I really did anything wrong, but I was sure afraid.
read more at Joyful Exiles

So thankful that people are starting to have the courage to stand up and speak the truth about what is going on.  May the Lord continue to sustain them in their battle against the lies of the enemy.

For freedom Christ has set us free; stand firm therefore, and do not submit again to a yoke of slavery. -- Gal 5:1

March 9, 2012

A decent summary of Rick Warren's latest Bridge to Islam two-step

Apprising has a good summary of the chronology of Rick Warren's latest attempt at spinning away his sinful ecumenism.

Rick Warren, Ed Stetzer, and Watchbloggers

Worth a read. Yes, all of us did make note of the fact that Rick denied the story. Problem is, Ed doesn't remember that Rick's been caught lying too many times for us to give that much credence. Our entire point is that he plays both sides against the middle, and whether or not he is aware of or admits to that is irrelevant.

Ed Stetzer should be ashamed of himself.

And this is interesting from Rick Warren:
"Christians have a fundamentally different view of God than Muslims. We worship Jesus as God. Muslims don’t. Our God is Jesus, not Allah."
But then we have Rick's buddy John Piper tweeting:!/JohnPiper/status/159953341177282560
So is it any wonder everyone is confused and alarmed? Why is it our fault for these supposed excellent and effective communicators' inability to communicate clearly? Ed, maybe you're suffering a bad case of over-contextualization. There's a cure for that. It's found in 1 Cor 2:1-5 --
"And I, when I came to you, brothers, did not come proclaiming to you the testimony of God with lofty speech or wisdom. For I decided to know nothing among you except Jesus Christ and him crucified. And I was with you in weakness and in fear and much trembling, and my speech and my message were not in plausible words of wisdom, but in demonstration of the Spirit and of power, that your faith might not rest in the wisdom of men but in the power of God."

March 8, 2012

In case you doubt Mark Driscoll is blasphemous...

(DISCLAIMER: Yes,I know people are guessing that David Kupelian has some questionable associations/endorsements, most notably promoting stuff by Roy Masters, but that doesn't mean he isn't spot-on about Driscoll.)

David Kupelian at World Net Daily has a great article on
which should put all your doubts to bed. (yeah, pun intended)
But back to Driscoll: I have nothing personal against this popular, hip, tough-talking young pastor in blue jeans, and I totally understand the appeal of his blunt, masculine, passionate style – a refreshing respite from all the stuffy, pretentious and cowardly pastors out there.

However, let’s just state the obvious: Mark Driscoll is utterly obsessed with sex.

He tells, for instance, the following story of one female member of his congregation who – and I quote – “brought her husband to Christ” by giving him oral sex, in accord with Driscoll’s specific pastoral advice to her. Here’s how Driscoll, during a Nov. 18, 2007, sermon in Edinburgh, Scotland, described this particular husband’s “conversion”:
She [the wife] says, “I’ve never performed oral sex on my husband. I’ve refused to.” I said, “You need to go home and tell your husband that you’ve met Jesus and you’ve been studying the Bible, and that you’re convicted of a terrible sin in your life. And then you need to drop his trousers, and you need to serve your husband. And when he asks why, say, ‘Because I’m a repentant woman. God has changed my heart and I’m supposed to be a biblical wife.’” She says, “Really?” I said, “Yeah. First Peter 3 says if your husband is an unbeliever to serve him with deeds of kindness.” [Laughter from audience] How many men would agree, that is a deed of kindness. He doesn’t want tracts. Those won’t do anything. What we’re talking about here could really help.
Really, people? Is this what we now stoop to in our efforts to make the magnificent Christian faith – the moral foundation of Western civilization – more appealing to a rudderless, confused and sex-drenched generation? Is this what now passes for pastoral counseling and preaching the Bible? I call it abuse and exploitation. I would even call it blasphemy (“… tell your husband that you’ve met Jesus … And then you need to drop his trousers …”).
(read more at WorldNetDaily)

Hear hear, David. Blasphemy it is, indeed. Mark Driscoll needs to repent of his carnal false teaching. Can salt water and fresh come from the same spring?

If you would like a more sound source to read from than David Kupelian, try this other blogger who reports Mark Driscoll Slammed by Baptist Press Over Sex Teaching. I didn't realize that Driscoll had said some of these things in the Edinburgh sermon, as I'd never forced myself to sit through that sort of carnal blasphemy, so the story of the woman's converting her husband through sex was new to me. Hence my rationale for posting what is actually an 'old' story.

I do realize John Piper reprimanded Mark for this particular Edinburgh sermon, but it seems like (according to his subsequent Peasant Princess sermons and his Real Marriage book) he hasn't actually repented of the message he was promoting (the manipulative way in which he tells men to spiritually coerce their wives into performing certain acts, by saying Jesus commands it), just the lewd way in which he presented it. That's only half the problem.

He responds to Phil Johnson here in a video
And Piper is reported here to have rebuked Driscoll on the Edinburgh sermon

Maybe I'm just cynical, but after all the Rick Warren debacle especially, I'm highly skeptical of Piper's assessment of 'rock solid' and 'significant.' He spends so much time apologizing for Mark in that transcript that it becomes much more of a "the woman doth protest too much, methinks." Mark speaks for himself. He doesn't need Piper to spin for him.