March 23, 2012

LIBERATE CONFERENCE Audio is available! YESSS!~

I've been waiting on the edge of my seat for this!  The audio is now freely available.

LIBERATE Conference from Coral Ridge

Some quotes from session 2.
"The life I now live in the flesh I live by faith in the Son of God, just by faith in the Son of God, who did something... he loved me. How would you live today if you knew at the very bottom of your soul that you were loved? You know what that would do? It would free you from having to make sure you were being loved." - Elyse Fitzpatrick

‎"Grace purifies our motives because it removes the power of self-serving guilt from the equation" - Elyse Fitzpatrick
After listening to some very law/moralistic preaching the last couple days (from a local popular pastor in our church's denomination, oddly enough, warning against legalism, and from James Macdonald on finding God's Will), I really am finding this a breath of fresh air. I'm finding I am less and less inclined to tolerate people adding law to the gospel. This not saying I am less tolerante of the right preaching of law and gospel or that I don't want to hear any law. I do, and I do need to hear it. What I am less tolerant of is the confusion of the two, or the neglect or corruption/lightening/dilution of either one.

Dilution/corruption of the law = moralism/legalism
Dilution/corruption of grace/gospel = moralism/legalism

They both end up in the same place.

I also highly recommend Tullian's message from 3-15 entitled
The Pastor and his message

Here are some good quotes:
"I think it's really important for us preachers to know not only who we are but what we're supposed to say. We have been commissioned by God to speak to the world, to the church, and it's very very important for us to know what God wants us to say. And believe it or not, we don't have the freedom to say anything we want."

‎"you know this if you're a pastor. You've counseled people, you know this. I don't care how good they look or how hard they are trying, or how successful they are appearing, they are afraid, they are insecure, they are failling, they are ashamed, they are guilty. Every one of them. So what do they need to hear? Do more, try harder? This is what they need to hear: 'Be of good cheer, my son, your sins are forgiven. The Son of Man came not to be served but to serve, and to give his life a ransom for many. Fear not little flock, it is your Father's good pleasure to give you the kingdom. to GIVE you the kingdom!"

‎"So when it comes to our preaching here is a good litmus test. Whether it's a sermon, book, blog, post, or a tweet, if the lasting impression you give causes people to focus more on what they must do than on what Christ has done, the gospel has not been communicated. It's that simple." Tullian Tchividjian

Coral Ridge's online media link

(UPDATE:) I needed to go back and listen to session 1 because I was distracted when listening to it.  Now that I'm listening again I realize why I couldn't follow it, when I was equally 'distracted' listening to Fitzpatrick. Darrin Patrick's message was just... meh. It was so very similar to most of what we hear from the seeker-contextualizing bunch.  He may not have meant it that way but it was not clear, because he didn't spend much time explaining what he DOESN'T mean or what things we are not to compromise on. I was left with the feeling that most of it was law, need to do more, do better, do differently, in order to reach my world... or that I automatically have certain idols because I don't have the opportunity to reach out to other cultures and have my idols brought to the surface. Is God really that limited in sanctifying me?

In addition, lots of focus on numbers, pointing out people's fear of the unknown and fear of people who are different than they are... which really doesn't get to the core of the issue at all.  The solution is presented that we need to get out of our comfort zone and live the gospel in a dangerous situation and do social justice programs and fix people's social problems.  He gives examples of missions people are doing and how they are having a dramatic impact. I don't even know what that means these days.  There are lots of bad ways to have an impact.  Lots of preaching about us and our projects, don't you want to go out and start one too?  They really love people, see?  The implication, whether or not he intends it, is that you don't because you live quietly and work with your hands.  Not much Jesus.  Lots of mentions of the word 'gospel' including telling how we ought to 'live the gospel' (something Tullian argues directly against so often) and ... no gospel.

Like I said, meh.  Discouraging.