Seeker Sensitive youth pastor Andy Britz makes the papers:
Cedarbrook Church lays down roots
I posted a comment here, and you may think it's a bit harsh to post this publicly, especially those of you who know both of us...because I'm just... "not nice," and Andy is in my recollection perpetually fun and jovial (except when you question his discernment or even, as I did, hint at such a thing). You may think it harsh to post about a friend publicly, but the apostle Paul did it... and I had already tried to talk to Andy a few years ago. I grew up with Andy Britz. It is sad for me to see him depart from sound doctrine, but it is happening to so many. I do this out of grave concern for him and his hearers. I hope that someone will read this and be able to talk to him where I cannot. That is always my hope when I post something like this.
here is the comment I posted on the news story:
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qeylar wrote on Jun 29, 2010 11:12 AM:
"Do we really need ANOTHER seeker sensitive church to corrupt the precious Gospel of our Lord Jesus Christ? I have listened to Cedarbrook sermons and the pastors preach all about themselves with cute little irrelevant stories that make you laugh. I really don't want to hear about pastor Andy's dating life in high school. That does not help to save me from my sin. I would far rather hear about Jesus and who he is, what he has done, and why I need him. Not because I can't balance my checkbook, or have an anger management problem, but because I am a sinner by nature that needs saving and forgiveness DAILY. I don't need 'how to have a better life' sermons. I need Jesus. Tell me about JESUS, from all of Scripture, for all of Scripture speaks of him! Don't tell me your own imaginations. The more details about Jesus the better. I want to get to know HIM. "
I mentioned to Andy about 2 years ago how unbiblical the seeker sensitive approach is and he never spoke to me again and immediately defriended me on facebook.
Aapparently his mother doesn't know the situation, I think back in 2006 (?) when I talked to her she assumed he was kicked out of I think an Evangelical Free church for similar reasons to why WE were kicked out of our Evangelical Covenant church, but she didn't know details. So when you go through something like this, and you hear of someone else who has been persecuted for standing for truth, you want to hear their story. So I had been trying to get some information on it directly from him, and checking out his new church, and I got a very sick sinking feeling in my stomach when I started to see what his church was about and listen to Andy preach. They were openly seeker sensitive and Andy's sermons are all about himself (the one that sticks in my head is about his meeting his girlfriend's dad. He spent a lot of time talking about his dating life, but I don't remember much about Jesus)...and moral lessons from Scripture (e.g. law). Jesus might make a cameo appearance from time to time.
That's when I asked "So Cedarbrook is a seeker sensitive church?" and he replied glowingly how wonderful it was. So I said "I got the impression from talking to your mother last time that you understood how unbiblical seeker sensitive is."
We hardly had begun the conversation, but he shut me out. This is typical "seeker sensitive" behavior. This is a scourge on the church. I am not telling you this for any reason than to pass on the information that people's kids are growing up and departing sound doctrine because they have no idea why they believe what they believe. They seem to think that moralism is the point of Scripture... e.g. teaching people how to behave.
Ironically, he went TO the very apostate denomination we left. (Evangelical Covenant)
Another one bites the dust.
P.S. (added 6-30-10) Just listened to the recent sermon "Rethink church" and they promo'd a video by Craig Detweiler. Ugh.
A Purple State of Mind (yup, that's politically purple, folks... e.g. 'moderate' social justice folks, Sojourners "Jesus is not a Republican (or a democrat)" types. Yes he makes some valid criticisms but like most emergents, he doesn't do it from a Scriptural point of view and just substititutes his own unscriptural solution. Very sad, but typical that an Evangelical Covenant church should be promoting an apostate like this.
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