March 31, 2010


WHAT on earth is Piper thinking?

from In Defense of the Gospel:
John Piper to Feature Rick Warren at 2010 Desiring God

and SharperIron

Voice of the Sheep has blogged that John Piper is taking an 8 month leave

from the official announcement:

The difference between this leave and the sabbatical I took four years ago is that I wrote a book on that sabbatical (What Jesus Demands from the World). In 30 years, I have never let go of the passion for public productivity. In this leave, I intend to let go of all of it. No book-writing. No sermon preparation or preaching. No blogging. No Twitter. No articles. No reports. No papers. And no speaking engagements. There is one stateside exception—the weekend devoted to the Desiring God National Conference combined with the inaugural convocation of Bethlehem College and Seminary in October. Noël thought I should keep three international commitments. Our reasoning is that if she could go along, and if we plan it right, these could be very special times of refreshment together.

No preaching the gospel?

How do you just leave that behind? I don't get it.


this article was posted by Doug Pagitt complaining about John Piper's "Lack of Humility" the DAY BEFORE he announced his sabbatical to work on "Pride issues."

Ergun Caner continues to lie

From Mirele's Miscellany:

And Witnesses Unto Me:

And James White discusses it on his blog and audio link to his Dividing Line episode here
Too many things not adding up. Thanks to Ingrid Schlueter for this link:

But his bio says he was born in Sweden.

March 30, 2010

Covenant for Civility

Chris Rosebrough and Ken Silva discuss the "Covenant For Civility" being promoted by Jim Wallis and his marxist Sojourners group.

In the spirit of civility, Jim Wallis, I say, you are a heretic.

March 16, 2010

Obama's new pastor

Not again! Meet Obama's new controversial pastor

Rev. Jim Wallis, a member of President Obama's "faith council" who is described as a spiritual adviser to the president, is a socialist activist who has championed communist causes and previously labeled the U.S. "the great captor and destroyer of human life."

Well is anyone surprised? Hmm... Tony Campolo, or Jim Wallis... decisions decisions.... kind of a tossup there.

This guy was ‘good friends’ with the recently retired president of the Evangelical Covenant, a denomination that Wallis finds highly intriguing. (our ex denomination)

Wallis Praises Palmberg's Passion

Jim Wallis's God's Politics tour blog:

The following is from 2005 when I started to understand the damage and deluding influence the Purpose Driven Church was having on evangelicalism, and in our own Evangelical Covenant church in particular. I found quite a few mutual back scratchings going on between Jim Wallis and Glenn Palmberg in the press and in blogs and other articles. In that process I also discovered the socialism so prevalent in the Evangelical Covenant Denomination. Here is Jim Wallis' blurb on visiting the Evangelical Covenant Pastor's Midwinter Conference 2005.

“February 4 - Chicago

This morning I spoke to 1,000 pastors from the Evangelical Covenant Church, and it turned into one of the real highlights of this tour so far. My good friend, Glenn Palmberg, is the President of the Covenant, which I find to be one of the most interesting denominations in America - genuinely evangelical and with a genuine social conscience, something that should be natural but has been all too rare. Like Glenn himself, the denomination serves as an important bridge between the conservative and liberal sides of the American church. I spoke about how ideology is one of the “principalities and powers” (from Ephesians chapter 6, the text of their conference). Ideology has polarized and paralyzed politics in America which now fail to ever solve our most pressing social crisis. Bitterly dividing us into left and right, ideology actually prevents us from finding solutions. But ideology has not only crippled our political discourse, it has also seduced religion.

By squeezing it into narrow political categories it has created ideological religion and deprived us of prophetic faith. And a more prophetic faith could actually help the nation to find paths to the common good - a conversation and commitment almost entirely missing in Washington.

I was unprepared for the response. I appreciated the enthusiastic standing ovation, but the talk at the book signing table afterward convinced me that something new was happening. I suppose I was hoping that this book and book tour would help to mobilize and energize the “non-Religious Right” in America. But I didn’t expect several Covenant pastors to tell me with great feeling things like:

“You talked about your conversion, but I had my conversion this morning. I have been a member of the Religious Right and I see now how my religion has become so ideological. I don’t want to do that anymore”

“I have been on the Religious Right in this denomination, but understood this morning how I have narrowed by concerns to only one or two issues. That’s not right or biblical and I want to change my whole approach.”

Glenn told me that one of the most conservative members of the denomination told him “I almost stood up in the middle of Jim’s talk and said to the whole denomination, ‘I repent.’” Glenn also reported another pastor’s reaction from the left side of the church. He said he had been so frustrated with the church’s timidity on social justice that he was close to leaving, but after the morning talk was sure that this was his denomination too. The Covenant, like most denominations, has experienced real tension between its left and right factions (the divisions that ideology makes) but this morning, Glenn told me, the whole denomination came together around a vision of faith and action that united them all. “I can’t tell you what you have done for this church this morning,” he gratefully told me. Organizing the non-Religious Right was one thing, seeing conversions from the Religious Right is something I frankly did not expect. I guess my faith is still too small and God might be doing something in this country beyond any of our expectations.”

So great, Jim Wallis created converts for the Relgious Left. If he's so worried that people are using Religion to try and create a more moral society (pragmatism, which is NOT Christianity, sorry Rushdooneyites), why is he doing the same thing, all the while insisting he's not?

March 13, 2010

the mysterious case of the disappearing gospel (Better Than Sacrifice)

My friend Daniel has nailed it yet again with his latest:

I'm thinking the little pirate bunny needs a glowing red eye...

But in all seriousness, he illustrates very well the problem in the churches today, where the social gospel has replaced or eclipsed the real Gospel.

Speaking the Truth in Love

I'm going to ramble here for a while, hopefully it will make sense :-) Please know that at times I was writing with a lump forming in my throat.

I have been very conscious of the concern about offensive speaking styles since my teens. My dad was an exasperating person, but I loved him anyway. He was diagnosed with Leukemia (CLL) when I was 12. God through his word tells me I should honor him, and I felt a great burden to do so, because I knew he wasn't going to be around forever. He was very Scripturally wise, (even though he was somewhat Arminian) but he often thought the worst of me and my motives. But he was the one who taught me to compare all things to Scripture. Even though he himself did that, we of course still ended up locking horns. He was pessimistic and suffered from depression, always saw the bad things coming long before they got there, and would be quietly anxious about those 'approaching horsemen' all the time. Mostly he was worried his girls would depart from the faith. For the most part I have little assurance that any of his other children are interested in the real Jesus. Two seemed like it, until I really started waking up and smelling the coffee about false converts these last 6-8 years. I hope I'm wrong about that, but as I said, I have little assurance as of now.

I share Dad's "gift" of cynicism; I guess it's his legacy. sigh. But when I first got on the net back in 1995, it was a real learning experience to think you could speak your opinions freely without getting slapped. I used to get chewed out for just having a differing opinion on dog care/training, let alone being a conservative Christian. This struck me as ridiculous, of course, but at the same time I would go into a depressed funk for days, sometimes weeks, after someone flamed me for having an opinion.

I'd already spent years really analyzing what I was saying and trying to make sure it was the message and not me that offended most of the time. And still people were flying off the handle at me.

I still think that sarcasm is a useful tool and should not be considered off limits. Even Jesus used it. (oh, come now, a LOG in someone's eye? People who 'sound a trumpet' before their good deeds?) People who regularly use sarcasm and personal attacks are the first to cry foul when they run across someone trying to correct their unscriptural doctrine. Such is life.

It was during our sojourn into the Evangelical Covenant denomination that I really focused on trying the "Minnesota nice" thing (e.g. if you can't say something nice don't say anything at all... or say "Hmmm interesting!"). After 6 years, coupled with health issues and constant pain and pain killers, I was so depressed from running the Christian rat wheel, I could hardly make myself get out of bed. I kept thinking something was wrong at church but couldn't put my finger on it. Discussions with like minded friends at church led to someone bringing up the fact that pastor Todd is all gung ho about this Purpose Driven Church thing... but "It doesn't sound right" (something along those lines). I inquired further and found that Todd was requiring all council members to read that book, but one new one refused, saying she knew three churches that that book broke up in her hometown.

That was like throwing a ball in front of a dog and expecting him not to chase it (well, most dogs anyway). I took the book home from the church library and was appalled reading it. And the rest is history. The odd thing is the same lady who REFUSED to read the book, ended up just as much an instrument of the Purpose Driven church as someone who read the book and agreed with it.

It doesn't matter if you read the book, all they want is for you to comply with the program, so you may as well read it and decide if you're pro or con, rather than risk being duped into following an unBiblical program. Which this lady did wholeheartedly. She considered it the council's job to protect the pastor, and said so in so many words to a friend of mine (still stuck there) after we left. She also remarked on how she thought I was about to "lose it" because I trembled through every council meeting with them, though I never raised my voice. A few weeks later I went to a defense of marriage rally with Michele Bachmann and some people who were pro-gay-marriage stood up and started to rant, and I found myself similarly trembling. For whatever that's worth.

In the process of this whole "church discipline" process, I really started to better understand GRACE and what an eye opener that was. My husband has always shown me much grace. He through all of this has been almost a 'Mr Spock' sort of infuriatingly level headed, teaching me how to debate as best he can with such an overly emotional learner.

But what really highlighted grace for me was seeing it withheld from me (along with others for the same reasons) due to my perceived 'bad behavior' because I disagreed with the pastor. On the other hand, those who played along with the pastor's program got plenty of 'grace,' even though their behavior was blatantly sinful. Other people jumped down the throats of those who were trying to keep things Biblical, and that was ok, but quietly voicing Scriptural concerns over teachings that were veering off track got you the cold shoulder or outright shunned.

Still, through the incredibly hurtful trial that was, God, primarily through Bob DeWaay's and White Horse Inn's excellent teaching back then, (WHI was going through ROMANS! woot!!), was causing me to learn about hisgrace in an even deeper way than I had ever before understood. Not this cheap fleeting human acceptance/relationship stuff that the Purpose Driven Church baits and switches people with, dangling it in front of you like a carrot in order to obtain your cooperation in their grand vision.

It is very hard to describe how you can be trembling with emotion and anxiety and grief on your way to a church discipline meeting, knowing in your heart that you cannot comply with their demands, while at the same time you know the Lord is there right beside you. Through the Scriptures hidden in your heart, he isgiving you underlying peace and certainty in your mind about the whole thing, to where you could almost hear him saying "well done my good and faithful servant" and at the same time knowing you have done ANYTHING but a good job at it.

Back to the 'tone of voice' used in writing. In the course of this, their 'main' problem with what I said was with how I said it. But when I offered to apologize to pastor Todd for my tone, but that the issues raised still needed to be dealt with, I got no response. I figured then that their issue was not actually with my 'tone,' but they just did not want to actually SAY what their real problem with me was, because "we don't think anyone should ask our pastor to be more Biblical" would sound bad for a church to say.

One little gem that was reported back to me after some of my friends went to ask questions of the leadership about why so many of us left, especially why we were effectively forced out (the others left voluntarily in protest, which was a little gratifying): Pastor Todd said "well SHE wants truth at all costs!"

I think I laughed out loud. I felt strangely victorious on hearing that.

So, I have been beaten over the head with the complaints about my 'harsh tone' so many times that I don't know what to think anymore when I get it from someone. Maybe that's my blind spot, I don't know. I'm sure plenty of people will say "it sure is!" But oh well. When I get that from someone it kind of sounds to me like the adults in the Peanuts cartoons. I see so many differing standards of niceness, so many of them have nothing to do with Scripture. I see the popularity of someone like Rush Limbaugh, Sean Hannity, Glenn Beck, Ann Coulter.... and think well, then, why do people have a problem with *me*? I don't sound nearly as in-your-face as them. And they get paid big money for their words. Yes, I know, they have their detractors too, but generally it's the LIBERALS that go after them. Hmmm.... could be a pattern here.

So... I got to the point where I said I can't figure out how to please people, that I should just work to make my speech as pleasing to God as I can, which means that it expresses his truth as clearly and effectively as I can. This does not mean always being dry and academic, so as to not offend...because one's passion is often lost in that sort of writing. And passion and depth of conviction is very important in Biblical exhortation too. It doesn't mean writing ambiguously so that a wide swath of worldviews can assent to what I write. It doesn't mean stroking anyone's ego. But write so that the truth of the Gospel is clearly held up in stark contrast to the issue being raised against it. That Gospel, is the only hope for sinners like me, and sinners like you, and like each of your hearers/readers: those weighed down with sin, who know they deserve God's just wrath against their sin, and know they have no hope of escaping it without Christ's righteousness imputed to him through his blood shed on their behalf, to take away their sins, and his being raised from the dead on the third day, just as he said he would.

Again I think this little "Battle quote" often mistakenly attributed to Luther fits in:

“If I profess, with the loudest voice and the clearest exposition, every portion of the truth of God except precisely that little point which the world and the devil are at that moment attacking, I am not confessing Christ, however boldly I may be professing Christianity. Where the battle rages the loyalty of the soldier is proved; and to be steady on all the battle-field besides is mere flight and disgrace to him if he flinches at that one point.”

In the case where you are speaking to a group that is in error (as is the case with 'discernment' sorts of writings), or for example, speaking in a venue where all the other speakers are in error (like in Ray Comfort's speaking at the Inspiring Excellence Word Faith conference that Ken Silva and Ingrid Schlueter tried to warn him against) -- if when you are done, the people who hold to this error are both 1. not repenting of their error and 2. still happy with you, you have not been clear or pointed enough. You may have presented the gospel, but not in clear enough terms to mark it out as 'different' from the false teaching surrounding you. The goal, when invited to a heretic's venue to speak, is to be clear enough in presenting Christ Crucified for our sins, and contrasting that one saving truth with the heretic's false teaching, as to not get asked back.

But oh, dear Christians, it is not to punish the heretic, or to make ourselves look better. In my heart of hearts, what I truly long for is the repentance of the false teacher, so that they too may come to understand grace, that their souls may be spared eternal suffering, that God may be glorified in their merciful salvation rather than their just condemnation, and that they may know the true freedom with which Christ blesses his flock!

March 8, 2010

Monvee, It's A Spiritual Growth Program AND a Dessert Topping!

Feeling a bit behind the times here, my friends Daniel and Christine both have put up excellent posts on the new Spiritual Growth Technology "Monvee."

(Better Than Sacrifice) -- Spiritual growth? There’s an app for that

"But wait, there's more: If you're a church leader who uses Monvee with your entire congregation, Monvee can provide "a spiritual dashboard of insight into how your church is growing...on a live and on-going basis...with real data, in real-time, and about real growth."

Now how much would you pay?

One thing I would add to Christine's post at Sola Sisters --

In the story of Uzzah and the ark, the reason the ark was tipping over was because of the method of transport. If the priests had been doing their job the way they were supposed to, it would not have been falling in the first place. They had been given specific instructions on how the ark was to be transported.

The pagans delvered the ark in the way they thought was best, not knowing the rules God had set up for the Israelites for the transport of the ark. And in SPITE of the instructions the Israelites had explicitly been given, the Israelites looked at the pagans' "success" in transporting the ark, and assumed it was a better idea, so they did it it too! God overlooked the pagans' ignorance, not because he was pleased with their methods, but out of his mercy. But the Israelites were without excuse and God did not overlook the Israelites' adopting of the pagans' presumptuously ignorant ways.

We too have been given God's word. Adding all this pagan mysticism and 'innovation' is only presumptuous.

What we have been given is the preaching of the gospel. The foolishness of preaching, of rightly dividing the Word, so that the world ... no, let's make it more personal: so that you may know that you are under the wrath of God for your sins, no matter how good you think you are. That God, who is rich in mercy, has sent his only son Jesus Christ, co-equal and co-existent with God the father and the Holy Spirit, to take on human flesh, to live the perfect righteous life and die a criminal's death in your place. His righteousness, through faith in him, is credited to your account. He rose again the third day for your justification and sits at God's right hand, ever interceding for all those who have faith in him alone for their salvation. Not in your good works, but in him alone.

He will come again to judge the living and the dead, and if your sins are not covered by his atoning sacrifice, through faith in him, you will be cast into the lake of fire. But God commands everyone everwhere, God commands you to repent and believe the Gospel of Jesus Christ, who is entirely sufficient to both save AND sanctify us poor sinners. He does not need 'technology' or Monvee or Purpose Driven or any other gimmick. In fact those things distract from and add to and adulterate the message of his free grace.

March 5, 2010

Martin Archery and Bowhunter loses our business

And now for something completely different (well, sort of)...

Those of you who know me know that I hunt, and I particularly enjoy bowhunting for whitetails. I got my first bow shot on a turkey (missed) last year, the first year I went spring turkey hunting. I shoot a 1999 Parker Challenger in 50lb at 26 inch draw. Because of the lower Kinetic Energy of my setup I cannot shoot expandable broadheads, which I would love to be able to do.

My current bow is maxed out, so I cannot get any more power from it. But I could probably work up to 55lbs if I had a bow that goes up to 60, and possibly shoot the Rage 40KE expandable, at least (I might be able to shoot them now but it'd be iffy). My daughter's 40lb bow is maxed out also, and nearly new, so we were going to trade hers for a new one for me that goes up to 60lb, and give her mine. That is if she actually wants to hunt, which is doubtful.

The Martin Leopard seemed to be the perfect match. It was created specifically with women in mind, and along with going up to 60lb draw weight, the draw length adjustments put me at the top of the adjustment range, rather than the bottom. It is nearly impossible to find those two criteria in one package. The reason this is important is because the shorter you adjust, the less power you can get out of the bow itself. I have had one on order for about 2.5 months and for some reason, there is a cam shortage at the factory. Several calls to inquire has them putting me at the front of the line as soon as they get their cam shipment. So we have been sitting around waiting for a call.

Now, a little background:

A few years back (around 2000) I had subscriptions to both Petersens Bowhunting and Bowhunter Magazine. One day I received my Peterson's mag and looked at the back cover. Martin had bought ad space and put a picture of a well augmented lady in short cut-off shorts and top, with a mischeivously-fake-surprised look on her face, positioned provocatively in front of their new bow. She was positioned so that she appeared to have just been or about to be goosed by the bow's stabilizer. I was appalled. I called Petersens to complain, they referred me to Martin archery. But, I said, YOU approved the ad. I emailed Martin to complain. I don't remember if I got a reply. If I did it certainly wasn't substantial enough to stick in my head.

The next month the same ad appeared in Petersens. I cancelled my Petersens subscription, and I told them why.

In contrast, back then, Bowhunter didn't seem to carry the provocative ads. I had several months' worth lying around and checked through them. About the worst thing was male performance enhancement but it at least didn't include titillating pictures. However I did eventually let my subscription lapse when I wasn't hunting much for a few years. This year I decided to renew and also to buy a subscription for my nephew.

Back to looking at the Martin Leopard: this year in looking at bows the Leopard's specs really stood out. I am not sure how it would have shot for me, as I have never been able to try it, but I was anxious to do so. There was this nagging concern that maybe they hadn't departed from their provocative erotic ad campaign. But I brushed it off actually hoping that I would not see any before I got that bow in my hands. (How's that for rationalization?)

Well, the other day, my Bowhunter subscription came. I figured/assumed (!) Bowhunter would still have taste and not carry the racy ads. But to my surprise, on the back cover was a Martin ad. I was so disappointed. It featured a young woman in camo hip hugger jeans with a tag that says "realtree girl" across the seat. She is barefoot, with long blondish hair down her naked back. She was wearing a string bikini (string mostly covered by her hair so that on first glance you may not notice), and facing away from you, carrying a bow in one hand as she walks slowly down the trail in front of the viewer. Yeah what a view. :-( The caption is "Choose your hunting partner wisely." Good grief.

Now the last thing I want is for my daughters to be thought of as a hunter's next conquest. These companies make a show of trying to get more women involved in hunting, but then they turn around and portray us as sexual objects. Who wants to be out in the field with a bunch of men who think like that? Yeah I know they're already thinking like that, but now they're being told it's ok. Men have enough trouble keeping their minds where they should be with regard to sex. No, women aren't faultless either on that score, I admit... case in point the woman who posed for that ad and therefore must have thought it was just fine to let herself be used to titillate thousands upon thousands of men... in order to get their money/business.

I have always been pleasantly surprised by the presence of many Christian companies in the Hunting industry. Their character stands out. Obviously Martin Archery isn't one of them.

So I am back to no magazine subscriptions (and it grates on me that I just gave that subscription to my nephew too, expressly because it wouldn't subject him to suggestive ads) and back to researching bows. Currently at our church we are doing the Centershot program at our church so Mathews (A Christian Company with EXCELLENT products) is at the top of my list, although the price makes it quite prohibitive for some of us. I have never seen a racy Parker ad either, and PLEASE, oh PLEASE, Parker Bows do NOT go down that road. There are two Parkers I am looking at: the Parker Blackhawk EZ Draw (short draw version) and the Sidekick Extreme for 2010. (And who knows, MAYBE I'll buckle and get the pink camo version... just because... if it is not too pink to alert the turkeys). Plus the Mathews Passion is an option, if I can find it for an affordable price. Husband is putting in a call to the pro-shop through whom we were going to order the Martin.

Note to Hunting Supplies manufacturers and magazines -- do not treat your target demographic as sex objects.

March 2, 2010

More on Moore (Do Not Be Surpised)

I can only assume that Beth Moore's God-hearing ears must be burning this week. Last night, quite a conversation ensued on Facebook surrounding this darling of women's "ministry." Then today, completely uninfluenced by that conversation, my friend Glenn Chatfield...

read more at link!

The pdf's by Sam Kurien which the Do Not Be Surprised blog links to are worth your time as well.

William Tuck, heretic of Cool Spring, Mechanicsville VA

I just listened to one of the most abysmally man centered, devoid of scripture sermons I have heard in quite a while... And I listen to some BAD ones...

The message was
Where is God when Devastation and Suffering Reign?

Wow. What a weak god this man has. By telling us God limits his power so that he cannot stop 'bad' things from happening, he's put himself right back in the same situation he thought he escaped at the beginning of the sermon, with God NOT employing his power to make man's life nice and comfortable. Only in this man's scenario, God is not in the midst of the suffering, using it for his own GOOD purposes, either. It's just chaos. At what point, Dr Tuck, (does he REALLY have a PhD? What apostate seminary gave him that? Let's hope it's not a Theology PhD.

My friend Rett did a fantastic sermon analysis here, in 6 parts:

Responding to Dr. William Tuck of Cool Spring Baptist Church Pt. 1
Part 1
Part 2
Part 3
Part 4
Part 5
Part 6

here is my email exchange with him:
Dr Tuck,

I just listened to your sermon from 2-14-10
"Where is God in the middle of devastation?"

I have a few questions for you to consider:

I then pasted Jay Bank's Quiz For Your Arminian Friends and linked to it.

I then added another question:

What comfort is it to have a God be with us if he cannot stop any of this devastation? Surely if he did not want to allow the effects of a fallen world to happen, an omnipotent caring God would intervene. You have painted a picture of a God that is either not omnipotent, or is omnipotent but does not care. Neither is scriptural, because you are speaking from your carnal mind.

I will pray that Cool Spring Baptist will replace you post haste with a pastor that preaches the God of Scripture, not a god of the pastor's own making.

I would prefer that you would repent of your idolatry and turn to the God of Scripture, who alone is worthy, who alone can save. In the meantime the people of Cool Spring would be in complete obedience to the Good Shepherd by rejecting your leadership, even in an interim capacity, and use some good and Biblical free teaching from


His response was indeed thoughtful and oh-so-relevant to what I had asked:
I pray that God will give you a kind and loving heart and spirit like our Lord Jesus. God bless you.
Bill Tuck
I replied, without much hope that he would read any further replies:

I don't want to worship your false Jesus, thankfully. I pray the true God of Scripture will draw you to repent of your idolatry. Whether or not you have a loving heart will depend on that. Telling people lies in the name of God is hateful, not loving. Jesus soundly rebuked the pharisees who twisted God's word, and he was the epitome of love.

What a tragic situation. I pray that the congregation at Cool Spring Baptist will take action to remove this man immediately, even if they just have to get together for elder/deacon led Bible Study on Sundays for a while, that would be better than feeding the flock this poison. And I pray that Dr William Tuck will repent of his heresy.

March 1, 2010

Beth Moore - False Teacher? (Do Not Be Surprised)

Over at Do Not Be Surprised

Beth Moore - False Teacher?

Erin has collected a treasure trove of good information on Beth Moore's teachings. Says Erin:

The answer to the question posed in this post's title is, I believe, "yes." At one time I had plans to research and write an article exposing the errors of the ever-popular "Christian" author Beth Moore. However, why should I reinvent the wheel? Glenn Chatfield, the author over at The Watchman's Bagpipes, has done multiple articles on the errors of Moore's teachings. If you've ever participated in a Beth Moore study and felt that something wasn't "quite right" then you need to read his thoughts as well as the many articles that he links to in his posts.

I heartily agree.

I managed to listen to a video of Beth's on youtube today... and all I can say is (to the tune of the funeral march) "law-law-laaaawwww----laaaaaaaawwwwwww!" to quote Chris Rosebrough "First Impression of Beth Moore: Legalism on Red Bull Energy Drinks. Boy o boy she sure makes the (sic) God's law sound so doable." (give him a break, it was tweetdeck)