May 24, 2010

Ergun Caner on Mighty Men of Valor

From Ashburn Baptist Church iTunes podcast in Fall 05 (release date on sermon 9-4-05) Ergun Caner speaking on "Mighty Men of Valor" (emphasis added) says:

"Can I point out to you that true men of valor stand in times of crisis. Stand. Look at verse 1. True men of valor stand in times of crisis. Now these men are the ones who came to David where? At Ziklag while he was still restricted because of (his) son. They were among the mighty men who helped him in war. While he was still restricted. If you're a man of valor, you don't wait till the team's already winning. You come at crisis time. There are those that you and I both know that come onto the team and don't play until 2 minutes left in the game. They're the guys that the coach puts in when we're ahead by thirty points. He knows they can't mess anything up. They maybe make one pass and as soon as the bell sounds they start screaming 'WE WON! WE WON!' Well you know what you didn't do nothin'! True men of valor don't stand back and wait to see which side's winning. True men of valor come while David is still restricted. True men of valor rise up in the middle of the conflict. They don't wait for others to lead. They don't wait for the call to be ushered. They don't wait for something to be announced. If you and I are going to be that Kalil gaboor(?), I've we're going to be the men of valor that we're supposed to be, you and I have to distinguish ourselves as those who are willing to stand in the midst of crisis. That means it's at the cost of popularity, at the cost of prosperity, sometimes at the cost of prestige, certainly at the cost of power. Would you speak up if it meant you'd lose your job? Would you speak up if it meant scorn, ridicule, attack, would you speak up if nobody else paid attention? But would you speak up not because you can win, but because it's RIGHT? Do you know how rare that is?"

Norm "wait-and-see" Geisler (emphasis added)

"To Whom It May Concern:

“I am familiar with the slanderous charges that have been made against Dr. Ergun Caner generated by some Muslim groups and other extremists. I have looked into the matter, talking with Ergun and other principal parties at Liberty, and am convinced that the charges are libelous. I am also convinced that whatever ambiguous or misstatement that may have been made, Dr. Caner has done nothing heretical, immoral, or illegal. I stand with him against these vicious attacks. He has taken a strong stand on important issues that stir up controversy, but to my knowledge has done nothing unorthodox or malicious. I urge all to consider him innocent unless proven guilty. He has welcomed an inquiry from the Liberty authorities. Let’s await their findings. Christians have a bad habit of shooting their wounded. Let’s pray for and encourage our brother.”

Sincerely in Christ,

Dr. Norman L. Geisler

Thank you Dr White for being a 'Man of Valor,' in not just this issue but so many others, by God's grace.