November 25, 2009

Josh Skogerboe needs someone to get in his face [updated/clarified/corrected]

[updated Nov 28, 9:35 am] OK Josh says he didn't block me. Somehow my posts are back up at his blog post. I'm not sure what happened, but I refreshed a bunch of times and they would appear, then disappeared and would not come back. So... just wanted to be sure I wasn't making a false accusation.

original post:
Ah, I have been blocked again...

One more post to Josh:

"you need someone to get in your face from time to time and speak the truth in love." -- pastor Bob Halvorson

Yes on occasion these guys do say things right, but their working it out is usually not the same thing. And in addition, when we are rightly challenged, the idea of it being done 'love' is not as obvious and warm feeling as we would like it to be.

Steve Camp wrote a great article about Holding Pastors Accountable:

Here's a paragraph from that:

"Dear men of God, if you have faithful “Bereans” in your church constantly plying you with questions, constantly examining you with the Word of God, constantly offering you from the well of careful learning a word of circumspection, don’t recoil at those parishioners, but thank the Lord for them for you are blessed. You might be tempted to say to some, “lighten up…back off…give me a break.” Don’t! I know that some elders look at people like this as being a nuisance, but they are really just fulfilling their biblical duty to you—and let them do this with joy. Paul says, “And for this reason we also constantly thank God that when you received from us the word of God's message, you accepted it not as the word of men, but for what it really is, the word of God, which also performs its work in you who believe” (1 Thessalonians 2:13)."

I see my posts have disappeared [from Josh's page and this one didn't go through either], probably because I noticed after I posted them that you said to lay off those specific churches. I respectfully respond No, all the same, but I won't do it here, since you won't countenance anyone speaking ill of them (i only spoke ill of the message, not the people).

In addition I might point out that you are speaking ill of people I care about, and that Jason cares about, and he has not yet told you even to lay off his wife.