from about 11:30 - 35:00 minutes Give or take.
Talking about the Desiring God Conference, potty words and Mark Driscoll. Todd's take on Driscoll's presentation is essentially that he agreed with much of what Driscoll said. I concur as well.
summary:
For the most part Driscoll did a good job.
breaks it down into two parts
- be gentle with sheep
- rebuke the swine sternly
- drive off/shoot the wolves
But he didn't agree on Driscoll 's take on skubalon, and neither do I. Interestingly enough, Driscoll tiptoed around actually using those words. IF they are OK to use, why didn't he just use them?
For the most part Driscoll did a good job.
breaks it down into two parts
- be gentle with sheep
- rebuke the swine sternly
- drive off/shoot the wolves
But he didn't agree on Driscoll 's take on skubalon, and neither do I. Interestingly enough, Driscoll tiptoed around actually using those words. IF they are OK to use, why didn't he just use them?
Paul Tripp did! It was OK for him and apparently to John Piper to go ahead and use the S word in a demonstrative way in a video posted to the public to promote the Desiring God conference. But then Mark Driscoll tiptoed around the word in his own presentation!
Certainly you can refer to false teaching as skubalon /dung/refuse etc. because that's what it is, but Driscoll seems to be implying that we can use the profane version for this term, which Friel rejects. It's the difference between using slang terms for private body parts, for example, and their proper medical terms.
WOTM even beeped out the word 'ass' which Luther used (meaning donkey not the other meaning) when replaying Driscoll. I can see why they would do it. I don't think it needed to be done in this particular example, since the word was being used to denote a stupid four legged animal and not the alternate meaning. I can't see beeping that out when it is still used in hymns.
"How often must I cry out to you coarse, stupid papists to quote Scripture sometime? Scripture! Scripture! Scripture! Do you not hear, you deaf goat and coarse ass?" -- Martin Luther
I can see there being some debate on that particular word since there are two very different meanings right now, but that isn't the one Paul Tripp was using!
I also was NOT impressed with Driscoll at the end of his presentation pulling out the "we are persecuted and dealing with real nasty situations, so don't criticize us, we have it so much harder than the rest of you!" card. I'm sorry, but that doesn't give anyone freedom from questioning and criticism.
Certainly you can refer to false teaching as skubalon /dung/refuse etc. because that's what it is, but Driscoll seems to be implying that we can use the profane version for this term, which Friel rejects. It's the difference between using slang terms for private body parts, for example, and their proper medical terms.
WOTM even beeped out the word 'ass' which Luther used (meaning donkey not the other meaning) when replaying Driscoll. I can see why they would do it. I don't think it needed to be done in this particular example, since the word was being used to denote a stupid four legged animal and not the alternate meaning. I can't see beeping that out when it is still used in hymns.
"How often must I cry out to you coarse, stupid papists to quote Scripture sometime? Scripture! Scripture! Scripture! Do you not hear, you deaf goat and coarse ass?" -- Martin Luther
I can see there being some debate on that particular word since there are two very different meanings right now, but that isn't the one Paul Tripp was using!
I also was NOT impressed with Driscoll at the end of his presentation pulling out the "we are persecuted and dealing with real nasty situations, so don't criticize us, we have it so much harder than the rest of you!" card. I'm sorry, but that doesn't give anyone freedom from questioning and criticism.
