And now Ingrid has responded.
I think she is right on. After reading Ray's post above, I thought "he thinks he can appease women with flowers instead of dealing forthrightly with the problem?" and "what? No flowers for Ken? Maybe he couldn't figure out what kind he likes..."
The entire post seemed flippant -- like he was talking about something as irritating and embarrassing as having had a bad hair day or having been caught out in public with two different shoes on.
Ray's responses to this situation have been at best inadequate to deal with the gravity of the situation, as well as the harm he has caused to Ingrid and Ken's ministries by his perceived resistance to their admonition and by not rebuking his own Mark Spence's vitriolic responses to them both. By simply not saying something along the lines of "Ken and Ingrid were right -- I should not have done this, and I neglected for several years to do anything about my association with this group. For that I am sorry." makes Ingrid and Ken lose credibility in the eyes of many of Ray's supporters. He has as much as admitted they were right but without doing anything to commend those two who stuck their necks out to warn them.
Please, brother Ray, consider making restitution not with a bouquet of flowers, but with a public acknowledgement that you were in the wrong to have by your prolonged negligence given credibility to heretics even after it was brought to your attention, and by publicly lending your credibility now to those who speak the TRUTH -- by commending the brother(s?) and sister(s?) who tried to warn you, for their actions and naming their names with thankfulness.
That would show true humility.
Perhaps this is Jesus' way of saying it's time to consider severing ties from these heretics (including the slot on TBN) and trust him to further your ministry without compromise. I would think it would be more in line with Christian integrity to broadcast on a secular station that doesn't pretend to be Christian.
I have to think that if Ray had not been at the Inspiring Excellence Conference, that Todd Friel would have been all over the audio of John Avanzini and his silly doctrine of 'reverse entrapment' and his 'magic rubbing stones' that can only be 'charged' with God's power by making a credit card donation in the amount of your mortgage payment.
But as it stands right now I doubt they will ever use that audio. So... Avanzini, by association with Ray at that conference, in effect receives some amount of protection from receiving any more negative attention and being exposed as a false teacher on the radio show.
And Ray, if your message wasn't clear enough so that people can differentiate between your gospel and theirs and how they aren't compatible, you didn't preach it clearly enough. If you were invited to speak at a heretical conference and keep being asked back, if your message itself didn't cause enough controversy (rather than Ingrid and Ken's warning to you causing the controversy) in the presence of such blatant heretics, then you didn't preach it clearly enough.
