October 17, 2014

Mars Hill “Global Fund” Contributors With Concerns Invited to Contact Washington State Attorney General’s Office (Sola Sisters)

Sola Sisters writes:
Mars Hill “Global Fund” Contributors With Concerns Invited to Contact Washington State Attorney General’s Office

According to former Mars Hill member Dean Watkins:
I just got off the phone with an employee in the Washington State Attorney General's office. They have spent some time trying to figure out how to have accountability for the Global Fund issue. As a church, Mars Hill is exempt from filing with the Secretary of State. But under RCW 19.09 "Charitable Solicitations," whether or not an organization is exempt from filing with the Secretary of State, they must still comply with the law.
...(snip)...
If there are enough complaints, the Attorney General's will likely investigate. But the complaints need to be from people who gave to the Global Fund. Thank you each for filing your complaint, or sharing this information with someone that may have a complaint to file.


The stories of Driscoll's resignation keep insisting he has not done anything wrong other than being too harsh to people.  Nothing illegal or immoral.  (Apparently they think immorality only involves blatant sexual sin.  I'm left wondering just what a pastor would have to devolve to in order to be removed from his church these days...)

You can also file a complaint about 501c3 violations with the IRS online here.
related: On Driscoll, it’s called inurement, and it’s probably illegal (Pajama Pages)

October 8, 2014

FABULOUS (*long*) Three part analysis by Herescope on The Culture Which Gave Rise to Mark Driscoll

Honestly, this is every bit worth your time so that if you flee one of these dysfunctional churches, you don't jump right into ANOTHER (albeit slightly more subtle version of) Mars Hill. It makes the connection to Leadership Network/Peter Drucker and Jim Collins' teachings that were also adopted by people like Rick Warren and Bill Hybels (who are much less 'controversial' than Mark Driscoll and therefore easier to hide their unbiblical leadership model). It really does get to the root of the problem.

"We Are Not ABANDONED"
The Culture Which Gave Rise to Mark Driscoll
Part 1: What "blessed subtraction" and "anonymous" mean
http://herescope.blogspot.com/2014/09/we-are-not-abandoned.html

"Under the Bus" and "Off the Map"
The Out-of-Control Bus That Runs Over Sheep
Part 2: The Culture Which Gave Rise to Mark Driscoll
http://herescope.blogspot.com/2014/09/under-bus-and-off-map.html

The MegaChurch Transit Authority...
...and How it Operates
The Culture Which Gave Rise to Mark Driscoll, Part 3
http://herescope.blogspot.com/2014/10/the-megachurch-transit-authority.html

related:
Resistance Is Futile: You Will Be Assimilated Into The Community  (audio lecture and power point)

September 2, 2014

Brilliant post by Janet Mefferd on the never ending Driscoll saga

The Driscoll Case: Now In the Jury’s Hands
Mars Hill members also released horrendous online testimonies, describing the kind of abuse they claimed to have suffered at the hands of Mark Driscoll and Mars Hill. Except those tales were often undermined by the very writers themselves, who often ended their terrible accounts of spiritual abuse with strained accounts of “love” for Pastor Mark and his soul, along with some very unnecessary self-flagellation. Things like: “The bottom line is that I love Mark, and I wish the very best for him, and after all, I’m a terrible sinner — a really bad, bad sinner — too!” And I thought, “Why are these testimonies ending like this? I don’t get it. There’s no moral equivalence here.”

Sure, there were a few more pseudo-apologies from Driscoll, which were never real instances of godly sorrow and thorough repentance, but the Internet would be awash in cries for mercy: “Seeee? It’s time to heeeal and restoooore Mark Driscoll!” Then another scandal would break, and we’d go through the same cycle, AGAIN, ad nauseam.
read more at Janet's blog

August 30, 2014

My email conversation with Philip Stallings

(Update: I've restored Tim Brown's name to the thread, and struck through the paragraph explaining why I'd redacted it. Briefly, I didn't want to hold him responsible for something he hadn't read. I've since found out that he has read it and is badly mischaracterizing what I've written.  I'm comfortable that what I've said is accurate and clear; Tim is free to prove otherwise, and I'll clarify as needed.)

I don't often post on this blog, but I was recently contacted by Mr. Philip Stallings about some of what's been written here, so it seems like the right place to post the conversation. I'm not planning on writing him any more, but if there are more messages from Mr. Stallings, I'll update the post accordingly. Please note that in my first response to him, I reserved the right to give the emails to anyone I thought should see them; I've taken his continued responses as assent.

I'm making this available because, as I told him more than once in the thread, I think his emails demonstrate he is still not dealing honestly and fully with his own past behavior. Also, I'm aware of recent actions by him that continue in the same pattern: escalation of conversations with women in inappropriate ways, with extremely crass, abusive language once the woman grows uncomfortable with what he's saying. At a minimum, such behavior is disqualifying for a Christian teacher/leader, but if he's continuing other types of behavior that I've seen from him in the past, it's goes far beyond not meeting standards for leadership.

This is an attempt to warn the flock, especially women, about this man, so that he isn't given authority and credibility by those ignorant of his ongoing behavior, and to let anyone who has been victimized by him know that they are not alone, that people are trying to keep it from happening again. I'm keeping this post focused on the email thread; if you do some searching online, I'm sure you could find more specific details about how Philip has been acting.

August 29, 2014

Mars Hill's leadership continues to implode

Praise God that Paul Tripp has the boldness to say what he has said.  Honestly, reading this made me want to rejoice and cry at the same time:

Nine Current Mars Hill Church Elders Take a Bold Stand
When asked about speculations that he might have resigned to protect the reputation of his ministry, Paul said this: “I am not worried at all at burning my integrity for the real deal, but I won’t burn it for something that’s not the real deal. I don’t think even now that there is the recognition of the depth of what Mars Hill Church and Mark is actually dealing with. This is without a doubt, the most abusive, coercive ministry culture I’ve ever been involved with.” He continued on to communicate that Mars Hill’s leadership culture was not shaped by the same grace that it says it believes.

 ----- Paul informed us that at one point that during the time when he was setting up the reconciliation process, the EE, without asking the BOAA, met with their lawyers and added a slew of legal constraints to the process. Paul was emphatic in telling the EE that this was unacceptable, but they did not listen, and consequently hindered the process. Paul was disturbed that anything would be seen as more important in this process than being made right with man and with God. “If your response to reconciliation is ‘I want to cover my butt legally, then you’re not interested in reconciliation.’”
read more at Warren Throckmorton's blog post containing a pdf copy of the original document.

KOMO tried to talk to Mark and he wouldn't come to the door, and lied to avoid it:

Mars Hill pastor terminated after criticizing church leader (VIDEO)
Then he called the police on the reporter even though he had done nothing wrong.  (The police didn't do anything to him, but they *were* called.)

Dave Lester has begun a petition urging Mars Hill to listen to these 9 pastors.

Mars Hill complains  about the 'leaked document' by the 9 pastors.  When in doubt, apologize for something that is actually NOT the problem, and make them think you care.  Psst!  Mars Hill - the Bible says to be sure your sins will find you out.  It doesn't excuse you based on how they are made known:
Unfortunately, in recent months it has been proven almost everything that goes on that City group is leaked publicly to online media. We simply do not know who is passing these private conversations along to the media, but the fact is, it keeps happening.

Your elders are deeply grieved over the manner in which this has happened. In particular, we are grieved because 1 Corinthians 6:1–8 gives us a very clear (and even stern) command that when we have grievances against one another, we are to work them out in such a way that non-believers are not invited into the discussion. This passage shows us that even in cases of serious wrong or disagreement, God wants us to exercise appropriate discretion. We are terribly sorry because this is incredibly distracting and harmful to the cause of the gospel. Please forgive us for our division and lack of unity. We know this hurts all of you deeply and we are eagerly working toward the unity that we have in Jesus.
The deep denial these people are in is just astonishing... wow.

"Your elders are deeply grieved over the manner in which this has happened."  Apparently not all of them.  And a 'guest' commenter on Warren Throckmorton's blog post made an excellent point:
"Can't believe they used 1st Cor. 6 after what Paul Tripp said about the Executive Elders scrambling to contact their lawyers. "
Do as I say, not as I do.   So sad.  It is far past time for those who care about Mark Driscoll to expose the festering gangrene to the sunlight so that God's name is no longer blasphemed because of this.  Hiding it behind church doors is not even close to loving anymore.

More disclosures from Bent Meyer:
New Disclosures By Former MH Pastor/Elder Bent Meyer
Loooong document:
https://joyfulexiles.files.wordpress.com/2014/08/bent-meyer-written-record-8-28-14-letter-combined-document-set.pdf

Mars Hill then goes on to release a statement throwing Paul Tripp under the bus:

Mars Hill Church updates members on Paul Tripp and new additions to Board of Advisors and Accountability
Paul Tripp’s comments to our elders were never made directly to the Board of Advisors and Accountability, as we have minutes of these meetings. We are deeply disappointed that Paul did not bring these concerns to our full Board or to the Executive Elders directly.

The concerns brought forth by these elders and the comments from Paul Tripp have been heard and are being taken seriously. Their letter, as with past letters voicing accusations toward Pastor Mark, will be processed in accordance with our bylaws. This means the accusations will be thoroughly examined and a report issued when the review is complete.
John Phelps of Storyville Coffee Company, and Matt Rogers, both local businessmen,  have been added to the Board to "provide increased accountability in areas of financial responsibility, staff and elder transitions and church culture."

Well, the more people you invite into the sausage factory I guess the better.  Even if it is just one by one that they start to realize what an unsanitary mess it is.  But hey they have Mitt Romney's senior campaign advisor Mark DeMoss helping us to learn ignore the smell of rot, so...  Here's to a great PR revival for Mark Driscoll such as the one which led to Romney's successful election as POTUS!


August 27, 2014

Phoenix Preacher weighs in -- "Driscoll Wins"

Some great points made here by Michael Newnham of Phoenix Preacher:

The Mark Driscoll saga is over.
Game, set, match, Mark.

All the cannons have been fired, the ammunition is exhausted, and so is the army of wounded warriors that have tried to bring him to repentance.

They were defeated not by Mark, but by the congregation they were trying to protect.

Driscoll will return and thrive…and that pile of bodies behind the bus will grow exponentially as the tyrant takes his revenge.

It will take about two years for him to rebuild the numbers and the finances…and for his famous friends to be seen with him in public, though they are proving helpful behind the scenes.

The people have spoken…they want their king and they will walk right over the bodies of the fallen to praise him and make their offerings to Baal.
read more at Phoenix Preacher