August 11, 2014

Cue the Challies lecture on Driscoll. (Janet Mefferd)

Challies has commented on the Character problem of Mark Driscoll.   Read if you feel so compelled.

Well, I remember when Tim went out on a limb and called Brian Mclaren a heretic, got a bunch of flack, and then recanted.  Then a couple years later, recanted his recantation.  Way to demonstrate discernment there Tim.  Likewise with Driscoll.  Better late than never I guess, except...

Janet Mefferd has had a thing or two to say about it (note, the link is bad, she fixes it in a subsequent tweet.)
Janet Mefferd discussed this with Warren Throckmorton today on her show.

(Yes we all know he's liberal, I don't endorse his theology but he has been indispensable in following this story.  If only the Evangelical talking heads would take this stuff as seriously.)

Then I came across Ingrid Schlueter's EXCELLENT take.  Reposted with permission:
Challies has written a piece called "Character is King" regarding Driscoll and the mess in Seattle. I've been restraining myself from commenting on the Driscoll debacle for several days, but today, a few thoughts. Challies writes, "As the situation comes into focus through scandal after scandal, it becomes increasingly clear that there are, and always have been, systemic issues at Mars Hill. Many of those issues are directly related to the sins and weaknesses of the church’s founder and leader."

When I and others warned about Driscoll back in 2004 on our blogs and in my case, on the radio show I hosted, we were roundly sneered at by the Reformed Club of Bloggers and the Driscoll fan club. It took about one tenth of a teaspoonful of discernment to see what Driscoll was in 2004. He reeked of anger, immaturity and pride, and the fact that he early on earned the label the "cussing pastor" spoke for itself. So now, in 2014, as countless victims have limped away from the spiritual abuse Driscoll engaged in, their families and faith damaged, Challies and company have decided that it is now, "increasingly clear that there are, and always have been, systemic issues at Mars Hill...many of those issues are directly related to the sins and weaknesses of the church's founder and leader." Mr. Challies, I have one word for you and the others who failed to speak out on Driscoll. Duh.

To those calling for an end to public discussion of Driscoll's collapse, I have a word for you. Driscoll wasn't just a pastor of a local church, minding his own business with his own authority (!) structure in place to deal with any problems. He was promoted and touted as an international celebrity of the Reformed world, and he made millions from the books, conferences, etc. that were marketed to the masses. The swaggering, swashbuckling poster boy for the Young, Restless and Reformed crowd, the one who would take Calvinism to a new generation. This is why it is all of our business. If you want to live on the Internet, on social media, and at internationally promoted conferences attended by tens of thousands who have nothing to do with your church in Seattle, you can expect to have your behavior addressed by the same. It amuses and disgusts me to hear claims of, "Oh, this is a private, in house church issue" when the issue is a celebrity pastor run amok. If these men wanted to be just local pastors they had no business selling themselves, their books, t-shirts, mouse pads, key chains, coffee mugs, conference tickets and life sized cutouts to the masses. You cannot have it both ways.

I have also seen urgent requests for prayer for Mark and his family. At risk of being redundant, let me urge prayer for his victims, as well, while you're on your knees. The ones with their faith nearly destroyed, the ones who were bullied, who spent years in that church thinking they were serving God, only to be shunned and discarded by the personality cult leader at Mars Hill. They are the ones I am concerned about. Mark has made enough money in one year to do just fine for the rest of his life. Those whose testimonies fill the Mars Hill abuse blogs are the ones on my heart, and those are the ones who deserve our prayer.

As for Challies and the Reformed Club of Bloggers who enabled Driscoll by their silence and delicate, nuanced criticisms (if they existed at all), I say, shame on you. We were right all along. And none of you will have the testosterone to admit it.
"Nearly all men can stand adversity, but if you want to test a man's character, give him power." - Abraham Lincoln

Documentation of the problem with Mark Driscoll (SOLA SISTERS)


Thursday, March 27, 2014 Documenting the Problems with Mars Hill Pastor Mark Driscoll [UPDATED] (Sola Sisters)


This is a great list of articles which keep track of all the issues that have been developing for years with Mark Driscoll/Mars Hill Seattle.  It keeps getting added to! :-(

Pastor Tullian quoting Buddhists now about grace? (UPDATE and real Antinomian Nadia Bolz-Weber about brokenness and forgiveness?)

Original post time 8/5/14 2:17 PM CDT 

Um, what?

Context:
http://twishort.com/snZfc
"I had to experience despair, I had to sink to the greatest mental depths, to thoughts of suicide, in order to experience grace, to hear Om again, to sleep deeply again and to awaken refreshed again. I had to become a fool again in order to find Atman in myself. I had to sin in order to live again. Whither will my path yet lead me? This path is stupid, it goes in spirals, perhaps in circles, but whichever way it goes, I will follow it...Now he understood it and realized that the inward voice had been right, that no teacher could have brought him salvation." p 97,99.
Truly alarming.   I used to recommend him.  I cannot recommend Tullian if he is going to keep doing this stuff and going this direction.

UPDATE:
another one from Nadia Bolz Weber

So, Last week we learned about 'grace' from Siddhartha.  This week the cussing pastrix Nadia F-word Bolz-Weber teaches about an F word and a B word, Forgiveness and Brokenness.  

So let's take bets.  Will it be Jay Bakker, Brian McLaren, Tony Jones, Jim Wallis, or Barak Obama next?


August 10, 2014

Philip Stallings trying his hand at writing

For your amusement and/or horror.  Beware, irony ahead:

Is it Time to Stop the Murder of Babies & Implement Lawful Execution of Practicing Homosexuals?

Mr Stallings seems to forget that the OT law would like have some pretty harsh penalties for criminals and licentious people such as himself who cannot stop coveting their neighbor's wives and daughters (and who certainly doesn't contact their fathers or husbands to ask if he may sexually harass them).

To find out who the seemingly fake Christian, Mr Paradox/Philip/Phillip Stephen Stallings is, please read this:

In Case Anyone thinks Philip Stephen Stallings "Mr Paradox" of NC is Actually in Seminary... (ADDED EVIDENCE PHOTOS 4-6 and 4-7-2014) (UPDATE new profile for Stallings)

Twitter page as of 8-10-2014, 
was expelled Sept 2012 from The North American Reformed Seminary.

(8-13-2014)But at least Stallings, on his FreedomOutpost profile, says "former seminary student"  but no mention of being EXPELLED because of his shameful behavior.
(end 8-13-2014 addition)

The following article was illustrative of his problem.  Notice that even liberals get that what he does is perverted and sick, though they may have a different motivation for saying so:
'Straight White Boys Texting' Is The Tumblr Of Our Time

A man named Tim Brown runs Freedom Outpost and some other Tea-Party-like sites, and has become the latest person to believe Stallings' claim that he's persecuted and that he isn't doing what so many women have seen him do to them and all the women are blowing it out of proportion (no, just some of them could tell what he was up to long before it got to where it always goes).  Tim Brown spent a ridiculous amount of time arguing with my husband and I and some others I know, over this unrepentant man who seems to have pulled the wool over his eyes.  And now he's helping him gain credibility again and by helping a predator get more social influence, you expose more people to danger.

While warning is all I can do, some people just refuse to listen.

August 8, 2014

One small bright spot - when pastors do what is right even though it's hard

[Dislcaimer - I don't endorse Matt Chandler or any of these guys on the board (most of whom I do not know) Matt Chandler has, since this posting, decided to give a sort of blanket endorsement of Ann Voskamp, heretical mystic because she wrote somewhat mystically and touchingly on suicide, meaning, her own thoughts of it. I don't even know what she was trying to say other than "I felt really bad about myself" and something referring to Mother Teresa as an acceptable source for theology.

For another view on the timing of this disciplinary action by Acts 29, see this article:
An Open Letter to the Acts 29 Network

...and frankly after some of the things I've been reading in the last few days I am leaning toward that person's point of  view.  End disclaimer.]

original post: Thank God for these men on the Acts 29 board, who have done what is right though it might be unpopular with many:

Acts 29 Network Removes Co-founder Mark Driscoll and Mars Hill Church From Membership
Mark,

As the Board of Acts 29, we are grateful to God for the leadership, courage, and generosity of both you and Mars Hill in not only founding the network but also sustaining it through the transition to this board three years ago. The very act of giving away your authority over the network was one of humility and grace, and for that we are grateful.

Over the past three years, our board and network have been the recipients of countless shots and dozens of fires directly linked to you and what we consider ungodly and disqualifying behavior. We have both publicly and internally tried to support and give you the benefit of the doubt, even when multiple pastors in our network confirmed this behavior.

In response, we leaned on the Mars Hill Board of Advisors & Accountability to take the lead in dealing with this matter. But we no longer believe the BoAA is able to execute the plan of reconciliation originally laid out. Ample time has been given for repentance, change, and restitution, with none forthcoming. We now have to take another course of action.

Based on the totality of the circumstances, we are now asking you to please step down from ministry for an extended time and seek help. Consequently, we also feel that we have no alternative but to remove you and Mars Hill from membership in Acts 29. Because you are the founder of Acts 29 and a member, we are naturally associated with you and feel that this association discredits the network and is a major distraction.

We tell you this out of love for you, Mars Hill, Acts 29, and most significantly, the cause of Christ, and we would be irresponsible and deeply unloving not to do so in a clear and unequivocal manner. Again, we want you to know that we are eternally thankful for what you as a man and Mars Hill as a church have meant to our network. However, that cannot dissuade us from action. Instead, it gives added significance and importance to our decision. We hope and pray that you see this decision as the action of men who love you deeply and want you to walk in the light—for your good, the good of your family, and the honor of your Savior.

Shortly after sending this, we will be informing the members of Acts 29, your Board of Advisors and Accountability, and your elders, as well as putting out a public statement on the Acts 29 website. It brings us no joy to move forward in this direction, and we trust that the Lord will be at work in all of this.

In sorrow and with hope,

The Board of the Acts 29 Church Planting Network

Matt Chandler
Darrin Patrick
Steve Timmis
Eric Mason
John Bryson
Bruce Wesley
Leonce Crump

When sheep have blood on their lips

I am so grieved to watch so many sheep turn into sharks at the slightest hint of blood in the water.  I have seen too many terribly bad, irresponsible posts in the wake of Braxton Caner's tragic suicide, trying to tar and feather JD Hall, one that was even trying to connect JD Hall's admitted unwise and brief contentious twitter exchange with Braxton to paint all or most Baptist pastors as somehow dysfunctional just because they aren't Lutheran.  That post even included a picture of Fred Phelps to make the point.

So I want to point out two good to add to the first one Dr White posted :

Chris Rosebrough spoke about it briefly at the beginning of this podcast and then more at length about 35 minutes in:

• Patricia King Discusses Biophotons
• Perspective on Braxter Caner's Suicide & Jordan Hall
• Sermon Review: God on Film - Frozen by Craig Broek of Platt Park Church
http://www.fightingforthefaith.com/2014/08/biophoton-spirituality.html

And Wade Burleson
Blame Is Not a Game: JD Hall, Ergun Caner, and the Tragic Suicide of 15-Year-Old Braxton Caner

May God comfort Braxton's family with the peace of Christ.

August 3, 2014

Have people no shame?

I just don't even...



Continue to pray for the Caners. For repentance, for comfort.

A good reminder: