December 6, 2016

Blast from the past... "Damned for Not Damning" by Chris Rosebrough

OH YES! And this one ties it all together - what he has done with Daniel Price and Tullian and John Philoponus and probably numerous others that I haven't heard about yet. He has fully UNrepented for starting this pattern of being a hypocritical bully which he tested out on a few of us women back in 2010. I had almost forgotten about this article, but he just deleted it off his site after Nov 22 of this year and someone brought a dead link to my attention.

Damned for Not Damning

In it he talks about how private information (which he incorrectly calls "primary source evidence") trumps all other evidence.

It was then that I learned the difference between discernment and witch hunts, between journalism and propaganda. I also learned that primary source evidence trumps all other evidence. But most importantly I learned that lies are the native language of the devil (John 8:44) and they can never be employed in service to Christ, the Gospel or His Kingdom no matter how well meaning the person is who employed them.

Apparently not so much. Let's just forget he ever said that, shall we? *smirk*

And, of course, this means I was right, as I mentioned when this first came out - he has fully faked or at least rescinded the apology he gave to Ingrid Schlueter over the whole Dan Kimball thing. I guess he really does want to be like Brannon Howse after all.

He clearly has learned nothing from Ergun Caner. The Internet never forgets.

Law and Gospel Does Not Make Reformed Evangelical Churches orthodox (Steadfast Lutherans-Tim Wood)

An excellent article by Pr Tim Wood (LCMS) on the whole Tullian Tchividjian bromance with some evangelical and Lutheran pastors. I especially noted the use of the adverb "briefly" and the editor's note, with some sense of sad amusement and agreement.

Law and Gospel Does Not Make Reformed Evangelical Churches orthodox.

December 1, 2016

Rosebrough claims he was deceived then blames those who weren't

Yawn.  Same old same old from Chris.  Blame everyone who arrived at the right conclusion based on the evidence LONG before you did.

The following screenshots were in response to this thread and article by Julie Anne at Spiritual Sounding board.

This boils down to “Calculus and Biochemistry teachers are engaging in gaslighting because *I* don’t know or understand any of that stuff.” — the essential Chris Rosebrough, preschool teacher extraordinaire.

It's not as if anyone with any common sense couldn't see the repentance was fake.  Maybe Chris gets blinded by a person's personal charms but that doesn't mean everyone does. It's also not as if people haven't been trying to warn him for at least three or four years (I have personally, I don't know about anyone else) that there is something wrong with Tullian's teaching.  I have said before that I think some of the critiques were unbalanced (Steve Lawson's in particular) but that doesn't mean they have been baseless.

But hey, he does admit he was deceived by a Christian Celebrity.  Where is this "discerner's" discernment? Why did he promote the guy when he knew so little about him?

Will he now go on to admit his discernment sucked here? Will he actually go back and analyze Tullian's message to see what is missing?

I won't hold my breath.

November 30, 2016

So much predatory behavior... a story of Tullian Tchividjian

...In which he throws his siblings under the bus for not going along with his malignant narcissism, and anyone else who doesn't believe his outlandish tales.

Honestly, reading these, I have to wonder if this guy ever was saved.  No wonder he can't become a Lutheran.  Then he would have to admit he can lose his salvation.

Nate Sparks' collection of testimonies of women who were exploited by Tullian Tchividjian, along with articles explaining the problems with Tullian's public unChristian behavior regarding the exposure of his marital infidelities.

Julie Anne's collection of testimonies of women exploited by Tullian, and a chronology/timeline of events regarding Tullian's fall, and his continued smug wallowing in the pit.

In particular this one (well actually there will be four by the time they are done, and I will add them as they appear) is important because it is the testimony of the woman "Rachel" (her real name) in the first affair that was publicly confessed, but which actually makes her "woman #2" (that we know of anyway).

Note - I am linking to these sites as source material - I do not always agree with the theological viewpoint of Julie Anne or Nate Sparks.  But that should not matter in the evaluation of the facts of these stories of Tchividjian's abusive behavior.  We should all be on the same page on that.

November 8, 2016

The political confusion of John Macarthur

So the other day John Macarthur advocated we vote for "the other guy/coalition" (i.e. not Hillary but Trump).

As usual whenever anyone tries to explain why we should vote for Trump who is the same kind of evil that Hillary is, it made no sense at all.

Here are his remarks:

John MacArthur Comments on the Election - November 6, 2016 from Grace Community Church on Vimeo.

he also had this to say at his Master's University Summit:

He says this is a massive worldview issue, makes a big deal out of it here, then a little later on Sunday morning said that we should've overestimate the importance of this election. He makes NO sense at all. But then, no one voting for Trump makes any moral sense. A coalition? Does he suggest that if we are faced with an election where there is a Democrat who is staunchly pro life and fighting the democrat platform on it, vs a republican who is pro choice, we should vote for the 'coalition' i.e. the Republican? This is entirely illogical and unethical.

 Besides, when have Republicans ever coherently stood for life against Democrats? They don't care about the issue, it's just a political football to most of them that they use to get votes. Christians are so unbelievably gullible, as a whole. Even these mature old preachers can't seem to get it into their heads that they're being conned.


Here is what he said back in March.  WHAT CHANGED? If you can't beat em join em.  Yes, so Biblical Dr Macarthur.

Interesting that today Phil Johnson pulled down his articles against Trump from this page:
Now it just has the above video.

Here is what used to be there just yesterday.
On the 2016 Presidential Election by Phil Johnson

Today it is gone, and even the copy is gone. That's thorough and IMO pretty cowardly.  Today he is saying that JM wasn't saying voting for Trump is standing for righteousness/God etc.  But JM's own words carry that implication quite clearly.

He also still has his Facebook post up about the Evangelical Chant for Barabbas in which he argues that at least publicly advocating publicly voting for Trump indeed is sinful. And that voting for Trump even quietly and privately is at the very least very unwise.

A few have commented there in the last 24 hours, so it makes me wonder if it is going to be pulled soon too.

But never fear, it has been saved for posterity just in case.  Sigh.  I really wish these guys would just learn to live with your words like the rest of us do, even if they have to apologize for them/recant.

The sad thing is, I really appreciate the strong stance these guys take for truth normally.  That's why this kind of flinching under fire doesn't make any sense.

It would be so refreshing if the church actually spoke with one voice on such matters.  But clearly Satan is targeting even well respected, solid men of God to sow confusion among his flock.

Maranatha, Lord come save us now... from ourselves.

November 6, 2016

My brother-in-law Dana's Election Sermon

My brother-in-law Dana's Election Sermon.

Just started listening to it and it's awesome so far.

I am also struck when listening our own pastor Rob preach, how anyone can listen to exhortations on humility, patience, righteousness, kindness, etc and therefore go home and reason that we need to vote for a misogynistic hateful lawless abusive angry bully cuz it's the 'Christian' thing to do.

October 16, 2016


I have been so disturbed that some in my church, sweet caring people, are excusing Trump and posting defenses of him on their Facebook pages. I told one ~60 yr old lady off who has spent her ENTIRE ADULT LIFE working with troubled young men. She should KNOW better! I unfriended quite a few from my small church this past week. I told my pastor a few days ago as a result of all this Trumpodolatry I don't want to go anymore.  He definitely sympathizes and can't understand the support for Trump.

We got up and skipped Sunday School but drove to church (and it takes 35 minutes to drive there).  Then we sat for ten minutes in the church parking lot. I couldn't  make myself go in.

Just want to cry. someone, at least one, had a trump sticker on their car and I just wanted to leave.  (I don't know how many actually were advertising for Trump - after that I couldn't look anymore  but I know I've heard at least a handful of people arguing for trump during fellowship over the last few weeks. And yes, we have had #neverTrump and #NeverHIllary on our cars for about 6 months, I think, give or take, but no stickers endorsing anyone.  And now I'm glad I never put a Cruz sticker on there since he STILL hasn't retracted his foolish endorsement.)

It's one thing to vote for him because you feel trapped and don't know what else to do, quite another to "evangelize" for him.  Those who feel trapped are not attacking their brothers and sisters and telling them they're "voting for Hillary" because they don't vote for Trump.

But a vote for Trump I see as equivalent to a vote for Hillary.  He's done all the same things as Bill and Hillary when they were in the run up to getting elected, and their sycophants were saying ALL the same things in his defense!  It's unbelievable!

Service started at 1030. We went back to our home town and got some food and sat in the car because we couldn't figure out what else to do.

Church is supposed to be a sanctuary and I feel like ppl are walking around w Nazi armbands and others are just tolerating it as a minor political disagreement.

Maybe I should try wearing one myself and see if anyone says anything.